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The general rule you can use to determin what cards can be activated in Damage Step include:barty64 said:
Counter Traps
Cards that specifially modify ATK/DEF
Card with specific timing. (Nutrient Z, Rope of Life)
Cards that specifially modify ATK/DEF
Card with specific timing. (Nutrient Z, Rope of Life)
If any card is an exception to these three rules it will say so in the card's rulings.
Apparently, from what I've heard (I have not seen any official confirmation of this), "Michizure" is not able to activated when a card is sent to the Graveyard in battle even though it specifies the timing of "when a monster on your side of the field is sent to the Graveyard."
Personally, I don't believe it, but who knows. Anyone got documentation on this one?
Personally, I don't believe it, but who knows. Anyone got documentation on this one?
That's actually an old one. Helpeopmer316 has an article (written by Magician Noir I believe) about this in the Netrep Articles section.Kyhotae said:
Michizure cannot be activated in the Damage step for the four reason I posted above. It's not a Counter, it doesn't modify ATK/DEF, it doesn't have timing that like "destroyed as a result of battle" or "at the end of the Damage Step" and there is no ruling labeling it an exception.
The reason there is no documaentation is because "When a monster is sent to the Graveyard" does not grant a card special ability to activate in the Damage Step, if one of the four reasons above does not apply.
ancient_duelist
Gold Member
Disclaimer: I KNOW NOT TO USE GAMES FOR RULINGSDigital Jedi said:
Ok, now that that is out of the way, I find it very interesting that YuGiOh Online does indeed allow Michizure to be activated during the Damage Step when a monster is destroyed in battle. Programming glitch or the way Konami thinks the card should be played?
masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
I would say "glitch". Like I said an the GX GBA thread, I used Book of Moon on a monster equipped with Sword of Deep-Seated and it stayed equipped, even though the monster was face-down....
I tried it again on another one and it was destroyed.
I tried it again on another one and it was destroyed.
John Danker
Administrator
The fact remains, and always will in this game, that you use game mechanics first....there will always be, however, a 100 or so cards that defy the game mechanics.
The game of Yugioh never has and likely never will be an easy one to learn all the rules. That's good and bad. It's bad because it makes it difficult to learn the game well and easily, it's also bad because it makes the game very difficult to judge well. It's good because it enables those who are willing to put the time and effort to do their homework to take advantage of the little loopholes created by cards that squirm around the game mechanics.
The game of Yugioh never has and likely never will be an easy one to learn all the rules. That's good and bad. It's bad because it makes it difficult to learn the game well and easily, it's also bad because it makes the game very difficult to judge well. It's good because it enables those who are willing to put the time and effort to do their homework to take advantage of the little loopholes created by cards that squirm around the game mechanics.
No, they don't. Michizure first of all says "sent" and nothing about destroy. Sent will cover any action that happens to a monster to go from the field to the graveyard.Kyhotae said:
Chthonian Blast has "destroyed and sent" in its card text. This makes the card squeeze into the Damage Step for that reason. Chthonian Blast doesn't work with cards that "Send" or "Tribute" a monster to the Graveyard like Michizure does. It requires the monster to be destroyed in battle or by a card effect.
So they don't work at all the same.
You do realize that Chthonian Blast falls into one of the four categroies mentioned above, right? It has a ruling that lables it an exception.Kyhotae said:
Like I said, it either has to be (1) a Counter Trap, (2) an ATK/DEF modifier, (3) a card with proper timing, (4) or card with a ruling making it an exception. Chthonian Blast falls under 4, Michizure does not fall under any of these.
Chillout1984
New Member
skey23 said:
Yes and no.
If a monster is tributed because of your opponent's Share the Pain, then you CAN activate the card
If a monster is tribute for a card like Cannon Soldier or for a tributed summon, then you can't activate it because it misses the timing.