Next ban list. What would you like gone/back?

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Rain is the only DW monster that must be discarded by your opponent's effect. The other 2 simply need to be discarded by effect.
 
Can someone please tell me what RFP is? I never thought of Graceful Charity, in the way the fellow COG members are now. This discussion has intrigued my interest. Especially with the discussion concerning Pot of Greed having no strategy, very interesting. What alternatives are there for these future Neo-Chaos monsters. Also an interesting prediction for Neo-Chaos monsters.
 
rfp stands for removed from play.
pot of greed doesn't need any stratergy as it's a simple play and draw 2 cards with no down side.
which isn't a lot.
to be honest the draw power in yu gi oh is weak if you compare it to the pokemon trading card game where the only restriction is if you want to play at a tournament you have to use the new cards.

but the draw power is great.
you can have four of any card apart from ex pokemon i think you can only have 1 of each ex pokemon in a deck.

first you start with a sixty card deck put six from the top to one side as prize cards. then get your starting hand of six
play any basic pokemon. so at the start you loose 12 cards
so your decks down to 48.

heres some of the card effects. draw down draw 2 cards form the bottom of your deck. draw 3 cards and discard 1.
send on card back to deck and 3 new cards.add your hand to your deck and draw 5 cards. flip 2 price card face up and draw 2 cards. most of these are supporter cards and you can only play 1 of them each turn.
oh theres no hand limit and you can only deck out during your draw face. so you can still play a card that makes draw more cards than you have you just stop when you run out of cards.

pot of greed to replace graceful charity it probably will because like mirror force and dark hole they just seem to alternate between them.
 
NormallY i REFUSE to even comment on ban-lists discussions, but this one is gettng ugly. What this comes down is skill level. Graceful Charity is more often than not the game decider. I know many players who see graceful in thier hand and think, I have to play it. Its stupid. Discarding the wrong cards looses games. Even in a DW deck the discard can loose you the game. If I'm playing against DW, I promise I've always got bottomless set and guess what, when you GC you're loosing those DW's and you've probably lost the game at that point. Pot of Greed on the other hand accomplishes more goals than just a +1. it thins the deck and looses a useless card (pot) for two other possibly more playable cards. it can also single handedly turn games around. Also what was the one card that everyone started with when Pot was legal. POT OF GREED. A dueling monkey (and I don't mean wheeler) could simply drop Pot of thier opponent and turn a game. The game is moving towards a sense of balance. Its attempt is to create a game where skill will get you further than luck.
Now on Scapegoat, and BoM. Goats needs to stay at one because games need to be kept shorter. BoM could go to two however, but no way should it go to 3.
Unbanned, Sorcerer should go to one. That wouldn't be so bad because in a monster destruction ridden format. If Cyber jar comes back then Book of taiyou needs to go. Cyber Mill was too powerful. The rest of the lists should stay as is. Tsuku needs to come back if the monarchs aren't touched
All the monarchs need limited to one. Also Cyber Dragon needs to be at one. Thats all.

In reality all of us speculating like we are does no good. No one can predict Konami's actions because they're so out of touch that our poor little game is just a $$$ sign to them. So stop fighting.
 
Um, I've been watching the thread pretty closely Zelga, I'm sure all the mods have, and I don't see any fighting or where it's gotten ugly. Has there been disagreement? Sure. But up until your comments, the thread has been pretty well behaved and respectful. At no point have I seen it get "ugly".

The thread topic, at that, begs speculation. It's the point of "what if" discussion such as this. All opinions are welcome as long as their given in a respectful mannner. I think you may have taken the comments made in the wrong context.
 
I disagree in the "Cyber Dragon" and "Tsukuyomi" part, "Cyber Dragon" Can´t be limited because of "Cyber End Dragon" and "Cyber Twin Dragon", u need the 3 to fuse them =s, and "Tuskuyomi" is too broken, Flips r very very abuse with that card =s
 
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Um, I've been watching the thread pretty closely Zelga, I'm sure all the mods have, and I don't see any fighting or where it's gotten ugly. Has there been disagreement? Sure. But up until your comments, the thread has been pretty well behaved and respectful. At no point have I seen it get "ugly".

The thread topic, at that, begs speculation. It's the point of "what if" discussion such as this. All opinions are welcome as long as their given in a respectful mannner. I think you may have taken the comments made in the wrong context.
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Thank you DJ. That's what I meant for this thread. A nice little discussion as to what we, as players, think should go/come back. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
personally I'm very Tired of seeing the same combo's and decks beening used by everyone in the game like Monarch Contral, Warrior tool box and dark world just to name a few of the top 8 decks for SJC and Regonals the banned list doesn't solve the problem that everone uses the same deck so no matter what you banned the decks will always be simalier in one way or another.....
 
I kinda diagree, Lord Hades, on the whole cyber dragon thing. Technically, you could fuse cyber twin and cyber end, even if cyber dragon were to be restricted or limited, just use proto cyber dragon. Besides, IMO, I've seen too many people using that card, and it gets annoying.
 
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I disagree in the "Cyber Dragon" and "Tsukuyomi" part, "Cyber Dragon" Can´t be limited because of "Cyber End Dragon" and "Cyber Twin Dragon", u need the 3 to fuse them =s, and "Tuskuyomi" is too broken, Flips r very very abuse with that card =s
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It didn't stop them from banning Butterfly Dagger - Elma. Which effectively banned Guardian Elma. But if there's one overused card that should be limited at least to two, it's Cyber Dragon.
 
well if you whated go to as far as they won't banned cards that fusce togather take a look at sandwitch you need witch of the black forest and sagan to make that card..
 
i'm not to bothered about cyber dragon i think it's used alot as it makess good trbute foder for the monarches which should be restricted.
all i realy want is witch of the black forest and pot of greed back.
 
Witch can search practically anything. TOO POWERFUL. You want people to search Breaker/Monarch/Jinzo/Dark World (Goldd/Sillva have 1400DEF)/DDSurvivor/Kycoo/Banisher/etc? The only real thing Witch can't search that Sangan can is DDWL.
 
I personally would like to see cyber dragon get restricted to 1 because I have seen alot of duels change around just from a top decked cyber but I don't see him getting restricted to anything other than 2 if he gets touched.

I think they should give us 1 more goat and book of moon

the only card I can see coming off the ban list is time seal.

I have been wanting cyber jar to comeback for a while because if used right it can slow the game down a bit for control players or it can speed the game up for aggresive players.

I am fine with monarchs as they are because though they can be considered broken in some situations but overall they aren't as broken as they are considered to be.
 
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