Parents at YuGiOh Events

Status
Not open for further replies.
I

Injection Fairy Lilly

Sexy Nurse3400
OMG I dont know how many times Ive been at an event and the parents of these kids dont know what YuGiOh is let alone what kind of value any of the cards might have.... Ive delt with two types of parents the annoying "white trash" (fun times) and the ones that try to help their children win while acting like they have no clue whats going on and they are " just making sure its a fair game" *Bullsh@!*

So get this.... Im playing at the last sneak preview and lucky me I get to deal with BOTH types..and sadly more then once. So we are all doing the closed pack tournament and I had all of my cards and had finished having my card signed by 5 random people, who by the way I never played lol, to get my 6th pack... (I pulled a nice super rare E-Hero fusion card). Anyways so I have the judge come over askig me to help these kids make some decks and play them in a few games- Im a nice person and got backed into a corner.

2 boys both of which were very sweet- I had no problem designing them a quick deck with the new cards and I told both of them to put the extra pile of 21 cards that were not in their deck, away... they never did and eventualy they lost them. Which in the end I get it in the butt big time with the mother yelling at me and telling the judge I stole her sons cra**y cards.... yeah I wanted some worthlss water and e-hero cards. rrright. Nice deed and I get yelled at. Like why bring your kids to a tournament when they've got 0 clue on how to play and they dont watch their own stuff. Im not their baby sitter.

Then while Im dealing with these two kids another boy of about 7 years old pulls a Pot of Averice... Yeah I started talking the kid into a trade. and NO i wasnt going to rip the kid off either, so the mom becomes all wierd and wont trade, but then finaly through enough persuasion she allows it to be up to her son. The boy likes money I offer him $20 for it, telling him that he can get more of the new cards if he signs up for the flight again... He didnt understand what I ment since the store doesnt sell the packs yet. The only way you can get them in through the flight.. he didnt understand this! So in the middle of round 1 of the constructed tourney Ive got this white trash woman telling me to give her son back the card- I told her I didnt have it, In fact I traded it. SO in the middle of my freaking match I had to deal with this woman and she didnt understand that her son would have gotten his freaking cards had he signed up again for the flight. She didnt understand he would have gotten 6 packs for $20... come on. HOw hard is that to understand..... so I had to go get my card back and give it to her, and she threw my money in my face AFTER I asked for it back! she didnt give me my money until I was like "ummm my money?"

Yeah so anyways.. I then that same day had to deal with this woman who was "supposedly trying to keep score" yeah in truth she was helping him saying stuff like, Im not sure about that or look at her cards on the field before you do that and it got me so pissed I called a Judge over. Im all up for helping kids and being nice whan I play them but after that I pOwned the kid and gave his mother the dirtiest of looks cuz she told the Judge I was cussing and be inapropriate.. yeah WTF?? But anyways I delt with ALOT of annoying parents who have no clue what YuGiOh is and they treat you like your 9 years old. Come on Im 20 and being treated like Im 5!

SO yeah I was wondering... has anyone else had to deal with this kind of annoying stuff at tournaments??:(
 
you make the parents sound like immature little brats...oh wait, they are!

tsk tsk tsk...parents (kids) these days...

Don't you feel much better getting it all out into the open? This is the world. There are nice people, and there are obnoxious people. And then there are people who have all the qualities in between and more.

It is unfortunate you had to deal with such people at a Sneak Preview event. The best thing to do is to get a judge and have them handle the situation, like have them do a tutorial on the game for the kids AND the parents. I know...it is sad....but it is true. Some people need lots of help.

Just shrug it off and forget about it.
 
awww your no fun... haha its no biggie what I dont like is having some Judge pawn them off on me! ask the judge to teach them? lmao.... The Judge that pawned them off on me doesnt deserve to be a judge. How he got to be one I dont have a clue I knew more about YuGi as a noob then he did as a LvL 1 Judge..... yeah, wish there had been a Judge at this event who could have delt with them... lmao
 
The problem I have with judges in those type of situations, and from stories I hear is the fact you clearly know more than they do, which should not happen. I remember a tourney I went to awhile ago was so messed up. The judge was telling this kid could have all these Harpie Ladies in his Deck and I was telling him he was wrong. I remember my first tourney, a kid was against me in constructed and his father was sitting next to him. So as we dueled I notice he was doing moves not in his best choice. So, I helped him with his moves, like telling him not to activate his Sword of the Deep Seated because I had all these cards to get rid of it, let alone my monsters were still strong. I remember when we finished a few minutes later I heard the father yelling because some kid traded his son some rare card for a common. It was just eh.
 
The REAL situation going on here is that at the very beginning of the Tourney, it should have been made clear the rules and guidelines for all participants involved in both the Casual and Sealed Sanctioned Tournament.

Most of the Sneak Preview Events that I have attended have not really been very good about that part, so it can be somewhat "on-the-fly" at times by the Judging Staff. I will say this though, most parents are pretty well behaved, as long as you take a few minutes to explain to them a little about the game and rules involved with playing (not a lengthy detailed brief, but something short and easily understood).

As far as maintaining control of your cards that are part of your side deck while dueling, I try to circle around even when I'm not Judging and watch for the "careless" players who usually forget their Promo Card is still in the Manga. I'll pass by and remind them to secure their cards before someone takes them.

I cant count the times I have found a Binder laying around from someone who thought getting something to eat was more important than having someone they trust watch their cards. And of course, most show no appreciation when they get their Binder, cards intact, back in their possession.

I try to avoid making trades at Pre-Release's, and rarely bring anything more than the money to enter the event. It's not worth the aggravation you experienced, trying to explain to someone that you dont have this or that card. If I dont have any, I can just walk away saying "No cards for trade".

It's not a Judges Job description to be a "Babysitter", nor is it his function to find suitable "playmates". While it is very considerate of them to do so, I dont see where they stepped in to calm the parents down that had the affected children.
 
<soft chuckle> If you had fun dealing with those couple of parents you ought to try on judging for size!

A couple of things to point out here. As stated above, a judge should be dealing with any parental problems. In a Sneak Peek area the free play should be kept pretty lose knit. I don't mind a parent over looking a match (so long as they use good manners) It isn't a tournament, it's intended only for fun and to get the feel of the new set.

When it comes to flights though this becomes a different story. If a child is young enough that they don't know how to play the game or cannot yet read the cards....then it's likely they shouldn't be in the tournament. It's unaccpetable to have a parent giving any kind of input whatsoever.

One last thing to keep in mind when dealing with children with parents nearby. Remember that children are (and should be) a parents biggest passion. Anytime a parent even feels like their child MIGHT be in a situation where they're being taken advantage of they're going to get very defensive and perhaps even aggressive (especially mothers) It's instinct, it's natural behavior. Anytime you're dealing with such a situation make sure you explain to both the child and parent exactly the card's worth, why it's valuable, and that once the trade is made it's final.

While I can be sympathetic with you for what you had to put up with and agree you shouldn't have had to deal with such messes, in the future you can avoid them or understand the Reasoning behind them better by putting yourself in their shoes....if YOU were responsable for a very young child and their happiness. That's a difficult thing to relate to unless you've been in that situation yourself I fully realize.
 
Think the only time I've ever had hassle from parents has been when I've been selling cards, all the duelists (both Junior and Senior) would be thrilled with my prices yet you always have parents who decide you must be a right Del Trotter (Only Fools And Horses in case you don't know the series) since everyone thinks I'm only about 16/17 (actually 22) so they can't figure out how I'd have the cash to buy the cards to sell on unless I am making huge profits & conning people.

Do have the odd young kid who wants free stuff too:
"Can I have X free, I'll be your friend?" etc...
And the irritating thing about the kids who try this is that their parents are clearly weak willed since the kids always seem to assume if they ask often enough the answer will change.
I tend to be on the generous side, great prices on what I sell and do often give free cards (just never ones I'm trying to sell for obvious reasons) but that doesn't mean I'm going to give them cards like Metalmorph.
Like Masterwoo0 I don't bring trades with me to tournaments, but with me it's all tournaments I leave them at home as:
1. I've most of the cards out there so there'd be so few trades that'd interest me that it's not worth bringing the cards, usually I'd just sell them instead.
2. You always end up with a kid, like mentioned above, offering you a starter deck card for your rarest cards and then whining and whining/nagging and nagging that you won't trade in the hope that somehow this will suddenly make the trade a fairer deal.
3. Too much stuff to bring if I bring my trades.:teeth:
 
Wow girl you got some mean hatred.


I can't really relate since most parents just dont mess with me.

I'm that one person you try and hope you dont get a match with. past few events, even though I got cheated out in 1 game I still made my opponent work for it.

even the cheating part because he needed a judge over and I asked for an appeal, but again this is SCGevent and they tend to not really care about the players but more about the money.

seriously, the TO all he talks about is how much money he loses and so forth.

Its an event, you should know events come with losses not always do you gain money off an event.

unless you promote the event alot. and this is yugi, so the only people your going to catch is people that play.

now if they said its half party / half tourney, then id probably have a very hard choice.

Dance or Play?

that too hard for a 20 year old to do. :(
 
Haha well I have no problem what so ever with parents wprkin with their children during the sneak preview tournaments.. The mother that I had mentioned earlier was helping her son during the Constructed tournament and that when I got mad. The reason I got mad was b/c the 2 rounds took longer then they should since the child was horrible.. The mother was obviously helping him, it just annoyed me. I have no problems with parents and understand the whole protective thing. id be the same way if I had a son or daughter playing with older kids. truth is many people rip others off on trades esp. the newer younger kids who dont understand the value of a particular card. IE. one of the mothers told me that her son traded this guy a card for a bottle of soda thinking it was a bad card when in touth it was a super Rare and possobly worth something...

what I DO think thats IS out of line by a parent is when they get mad at their children for not hurring up. At the last tournamnet this little boy wasnt moving fats enough and the mother got so mad she took his cards and riped them up and threw them away. He had 2 Pot Of Averice and a few Super Rare E-hero Fusions in his deck.... as I said in my other post I almost cried like her 6 year old son when I saw her ripping them up. I mean seriously parents have no clue what YuGiOh is and how valuable some of those cards are. I Like parents being at the tournamnets honestly b/c it keeps the bratty loud kids in line. AT times you DO have the parents you dont care, which IS kinda annoying...

About trading, I get tired of trading I get so many nooblets asking for cards that Im not going to give up, I actualy had one kid ask me if I had a Pot Of Avecice- I have 3 of them and asked him what he had- he tried to trade me for a Delinquent Duo.... OMG do I have NoOb written on my face? Its gotten to the point that if I want something I yell to the room if someone has it. Then I sit down and wait till people come to me. My Bf was in a Constructed tournament with me and the guy he was playing was trying to make a trade in the middle of the game... COME ON!!! My BF told the kid to cut it out that hed call a judge over if he didnt stop stalling and get on with the game.. The kid said sorry and 2 mins later was back at it trying to trade a card that was actualy in his deck! People at tournamnets need to learn manners, its no wonder Judges get fed up and yell at the older kids when we get out of line... I dont blame them honestly...
 
Like I said... That's the main reason I don't bring my Binders to Tourney's (maybe if I am judging and not playing, then I am in control of when I trade), especially Pre-Releases. No one wants too follow rules for Sealed Deck in Sanctioned Duel. They want to trade in Casual, then try to sneak cards in during the Constructed Deck Sealed Draft, and STILL try to trade cards during the rounds of play.

Takes all the fun out of playing because it's not so much about winning in Sealed Draft, as much as it is about having a good time and learning about the new Cards as well. I mean, prime example. I got the VW Fusion, the only playable Fusion for EEN Pre-Release, and had one half of the Fusion Material in my Casual Play Deck, and got the other half in my Contructed Deck Packs. Sucked to be me, but I still went 3-1 overall.

I'm sure there were plenty of situations like that, and possibly some took advantage of "loose monitoring" by the Judges to switch cards.

But, all you can do is have integrity and hope others do as well.
 
lmao which reminds me there were two kids caught cheating in the sealed pack of the Sneak preview... .The kids had played the day before and had great decks and wanted to win so they cheated and took out their cards from the other day and played with them to try to win.... A guy by the name of Brian Long saw them cheating and told the Judge that they put the new packs under their butts.. The judge walked over and asked them to stand up and after giving the judge a fit they got up and what do you know the new packs were on the chair.... your right it isnt about winning but about learning the game more.. Yeah points are a big deal but isnt it supposed to be more fun to enjoy the game then win??
 
Being a parent isn't easy.

Consider the standard (non-player) parenting view:
1. You are supporting your kid in a game that you dont understand, but costs a lot. You certainly dont want your kid to be ripped off.
2. Your kid pulls something shiny from a pack that he bought with your money an instantly a crowd of aggressive highschoolers descend upon him, pressuring him to trade, and probably trying to rip him off.
3. You want your kid to be polite and well brought up, whilst many of those same highschoolers are setting bad examples by badmouthing each other all the time.
4. Your kid is still learning how to play, and makes mistakes from time to time. His opponents can't cope with playing against a new player (because it lowers their tournement rating, apparantly) and apparantly aren't mature enough to deal someone younger.
5. You want your kid to be a graceful winner and a mature loser, and most of the people (who are big enough to be role models) your kid plays against are neither. All they want to do is win.

Speaking as a parent who plays, I have seen much bad sportsmanship and bad behaviour. I am aware that much of teenage behaviour is due to their developmental age, but it really doesnt help the non-player parents who support their younger kids.
 
I see your point... Im a College Student who can totaly agree about bad sportsmanship at these games... I unlike most look at the game for fun and enjoy helping the newer kids with their decks and helping them grasp the game... for example this weekend I played a kid who was 10 cards short and someone took them... I tried to help the kid find them... It isnt about winning but about having fun.. I could care less about my tournament rating honestly... Im a good player and Im ranked around 190 in MD... I dont play enough at all and if I did Id be higher.. I can go to my first regionals and pull of a 4-3 that says alot... What I find disguting are the parents who act like immature brats themselves.. ripping up their childrens cards- making trades then going back on them.... Yelling at people who are aparently trying to HELP their kids.... yes this happens it happens to me all the time.. I hink parents need to honestly relax and understand the game before over reacting... And Ill be the first to agree yeah HS do rip little kids off and honestly I think its horrible!
 
Injection Fairy Lilly said:
What I find disgusting are the parents who act like immature brats themselves.. ripping up their childrens cards- making trades then going back on them.... Yelling at people who are aparently trying to HELP their kids.... yes this happens it happens to me all the time.. I think parents need to honestly relax and understand the game before over reacting...
Click to expand...

Unfortunately there are no qualifying exams to be a parent either... whilst all parents want the best for their kids, sadly some are not capable of being very mature about it. And the 'oneupmanship/win at all costs' attitude that I see in many immature players is amplified in some parents. And people wonder where the bratty kids learn bad behaviour from?
*sigh*

But not all parents are alike, and neither are all players, thankfully.
 
Yay! I get to look forward to this stuff when field judging more. I do believe that an announcement between every other round should be made about good sportsmanship, keeping track of your cards, picking up after yourself, and also things for the spectators to keep in mind.

Some of it can appear to be rude and disrespectful, but those kind of guidelines are needed in every event no matter the size or type.

I've even found out my Sunday tournaments are rigged (match wise and they're unsanctioned) because of how the host sets everything up. This isn't a factor of how good of a player I'm--because I'm good--it has more to do with the fact that the host (don't care how good you are cause this is pretty hard to pull off) has been winning for like four months straight. So you can see how annoyed I could be. Wasted a good 5 bucks. >=(

For dealing with flustered parents at larger tournaments. I would have to say (like stated before) is to explain to them in a calm, collective, and kind manner. Keeping your cool under the pressure of parents yelling at you for whatever reason.

Honestly, I've had this problem a few weeks back. A parent was watching over his son play and was watching me like a hawk waiting to dive in for the kill. Didn't stop me from beating the kid and the parent wasn't exactly happy. I explained to the parent that I wasn't there to let other people like his son win at the cost of my five bucks. Sorry, but if you don't play as hard as you can against me, then you'll run the risk of losing the match. I don't let up for anyone (unless a teammate of mine needs to get Top 8 at an event) and that applies to people I know too.

Dealing with the kind of situations you discribed is a great sign that you could be a decent judge with some awesome Player Management skills. I pass that test with an 84%, I feel that if I had more field experience, I'd have passed it with a much higher score (roughly in the 90%'s).
 
I guess I should take that as a compliment... I dont have aproblem with people and Im really easy to get along with.... it just bothers me when there isnt anything I can do to shut them up... if you know what I mean...

I cant belive they rigged the tournamnet like that.... great scam but man that stinks
 
True, and I would win it if the decks he puts me up against didn't eat my luck up for a quick snack.

Being pinned up against two Warrior decks with Aggro designs to it isn't fun. Also having people doubt my Game Knowledge & Rules is annoying too. It's flat out disrespectful and I know they do it just to piss me off in spite of the fact I have benefits they don't as a judge.

He might have the tournament rigged match wise, but I'm sure after I comprise myself of a couple different decks, (Burn, Fiend, Bazoo/Return, Aggro, Anti-Meta, etc..) I'll pretty much stomp them each week with something they haven't seen before. Since none of them use a Side Board it seems, a Burn deck can roast them to death. Only problem with that is, I'm missing a few cards to my Dora Burn deck...@_@ Which does 2000 to 4000 damage in large lumps each turn. The deck is just sick. XD

I also played a 'judge' or one that claims to be one, that said he got annoyed and pissed off at another judge that was judging at a regional. He said, "The judge always yelled at me and had these two annoying kids that ran all over the place." and later in the game said that he hated the judge. Guess what, he was refering to John Danker, my Head Judge. You can image the level of brutality I dished out in that game with him.

Jinzo + D.D. Survivor + D.D. Survivor + King Tiger Wanghu + Cyber Dragon = gg you stupid "judge"!!!

If I can help it, I make it an effort not allow people to disrespect those that don't deserve it. Naturally, he was asking me questions if I knew the guy or not. I lied and said I didn't.

I'm sure John hasn't ever yelled at the man because, well, from the two times working with John I haven't ever felt inferior in any way in terms of game knowledge or professionalism. John is just that great of a human being!!!!!

On a side note about my rigged tournament I was in, I was one place away from getting 4th place prize and it sucked cause it was setup for me to pretty much LOSE!! -_- After that, the barrels of bad luck started flooding in. XDXD
 
thats stinks and its horrible that people bad mouth outhers at these tournamnets.... the only thing Ill ever say about a judge is when he doesnt know card rulings then he gets on my nerves
 
Some judges just aren't cut out to be a judge and should stick with being a player than a judge. Some people can shuffle them both and be good at both. A lot of people that know very little about the requirements needed to become a successful judge is that you have to devote a tremendious amount of time into it. You can just jump on the band wagon and expect to understand everything.

It isn't a matter of bad mouthing. Cursing in any tournament is horrible behavior and is deemed unsportsman-like conduct. I believe it's against tournament policies anyway. He didn't say any curse words about John, just that he thinks he's a horrible judge and has annoying kids. I've met John's kids and they always put a smile on my face cause their exciting and give me energy when I'm around them. I miss those days when I had THAT much energy. XD

On a side note, this 'judge' that insulted John has no clue what he's talking about.

Another thing you should know is this. Remember when I said I was disrespected? Well, how's this for showing a lack of disrespect. One of the final matches of the tournament. I was watching it like I would as a judge and even after I asked the host if I could help out with rulings (which he said no too, stupid reason too--which was, "I'm the judge." blah, what a moron..) and even after he said no I ignored him.

During the middle of one of the final matches, I judged it without a care if he approved of it or not. Trust me, I was needed in every one of those ruling calls because the host saying he was the 'judge' didn't see any one of the errors of the game. I pointed them all out. He hated me for it. He noticed that I didn't care. Thus, I got to do what I wanted to do that day.

The only good thing other than judging that match to spite the host, I pulled Goldd, Wu Lord of Dark World while everyone else pulled nothing really that special.

I don't regret of feel bad for my behavior in that tournament. I was cranky from all the disrespect I was getting anyway. Then I had to go to work, which compounded my angry mood.

So don't feel alone. My tournaments are rigged, host thinks he's the best thing to happen to YGO, and thinks he's just the "shizzle pimp dog" of the game. He's 'ok' at best as a player, has very little knowledge of game mechanics, and is one of the cockiest players I've EVER met in person...
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top