Soul Exchange

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NeoAqua777

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Silly question, but in Soul Exchange all it says is that you can offer a monster on your opponents side of the field instead of your own, however there are things I don't get about this card. Like why must the monster be Face-up for a card like Metamorphsis.
Also why do you not have to have a monster on the field to use Sould Exchange?
Another Question is if you had a Face-up dark monster with 2200 atk power on the field like "Giant Orc" for example. Can you not play Soul Exchange for Deck Devastation Virus, to offer a f/u like Shining Angel on there field?
 
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I don't think I'll be able to answer all of these as well as some others might on here, but here goes a shot.

Edit: Hmm...*after looking up stuff on Metamorphosis and Soul Exchange with more time* I dunno...^_^ Why can't you tribute a face-down on your opponent's side with Metamorphosis?

Soul Exchange reads:
Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field. This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase during the turn that you activate this card.

As to not needing a monster on your side of the field...Soul Exchange doesn't say that you need a monster on your side of the field, so why would you? Its not a requirement of the card.

Finally, no, you wouldn't be able to tribute in that example. Deck Devastation Virus specifies that it needs to be "1 DARK monster with an ATK of 2000 points or more on your side of the field." In that situation, Shining Angel is neither DARK, with 2000+ ATK points, or on your side of the field. (Somone correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but monsters tributed through Soul Exchange are not considered to be on "your side of the field.," and still need to fulfill specific requirements like those of Deck Devastation Virus)
 
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Edit: Hmm...*after looking up stuff on Metamorphosis and Soul Exchange with more time* I dunno...^_^ Why can't you tribute a face-down on your opponent's side with Metamorphosis?
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The reason you cannot activate Soul Exchange on a Face-Down monster and use it for Metamorphosis is because you can't meta a Face-Down monster, since its monster level is not known.

Soul Exchange activates, you select your target (you target there Face-Down monster), then you try to activate your Metamorphosis, which cannot work, since the Level of the Face-Down Monster is unknown. (The reason the level is unknown, is because you cant flip there monster face-up since its still on there side of the field.)

If it was a Face-Up monster, then it would work.
Hope this helps.
-Neil
 
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Yea so someone really needs to get this right... anyone? Becuase no one seems to know, and if they dont then this means Konami is just plain out dumb... lol (no offense) ... I think
 
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Ok

nkarunatilaka said:
The reason you cannot activate Soul Exchange on a Face-Down monster and use it for Metamorphosis is because you can't meta a Face-Down monster, since its monster level is not known.

Soul Exchange activates, you select your target (you target there Face-Down monster), then you try to activate your Metamorphosis, which cannot work, since the Level of the Face-Down Monster is unknown. (The reason the level is unknown, is because you cant flip there monster face-up since its still on there side of the field.)

If it was a Face-Up monster, then it would work.
Hope this helps.
-Neil
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Now I see what you mean. ok cool Still the "In place of your own" makes no sense because that means it should be able to be anymonster what so ever.
 
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I did, you can't use them. Soul Exchange allows you to tribute a monster on your opponent's side of the field, and its still considered on their side. Meaning cards that specify "on your side of the field" won't work.

And thanks for the clarification Neil =)

Finally, you might want to try editing your posts...instead of three in a row...
 
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The whole point of Soul Exchange is to replace the requirements of an effect you would ordinarily tribute your monster for, with one of your opponent's monsters. It's a replacement modifier. By default, when you go to tribute something it would have to be "on your side of the field". So that has no bearing on how Soul Exchange works.

Now with that said, the the only thing being replaced by the effect is who's side of the field you can offer tribute on, not the other requirements of the effect. For example, the reason the monster has to be face-up for Metamorphosis is because you need to know the number of Stars being offered to know which Fusion to Special Summon. The monster that is face-down on your opponent's side of the field has unknown stats. So there is no way to know how many stars it will be.

As to why you don't need a monster is simple. Soul Exchange selects an opponent's monster at activation. But beyond that, nothing else happens when the card resolves. A state is set up during that turn where you may now offer the selected monster as tribute for a tributing effect.

And, as I said, "your side of the field" is extraneous text, as a tribute is always going to take place on your side of the field. Soul Exchange changes that, but only that. The monster selected for Soul Exchange can very easily be used for Deck Devastation Virus. But it would need be a Dark Monster with 2000 ATK. The monsters (or lack of monsters) on your side of the field would be irrelevant, because Soul Exchange has changed where you need to look for a tribute.

But like I said, it only changes who's side of the field you need to look at. It doesn't change the other requirements that the tribute effect may need, which is why it doesn't work with Exiled Force.
 
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Raging Flame Sprite said:
I did, you can't use them. Soul Exchange allows you to tribute a monster on your opponent's side of the field, and its still considered on their side. Meaning cards that specify "on your side of the field" won't work.

And thanks for the clarification Neil =)

Finally, you might want to try editing your posts...instead of three in a row...
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It's important to remember, Sprite, that tributing, by default, is from your side of the field. "Your side of the field" is just extra text. You would never offer a monster from your opponent's side of the field anyway unless an effect dictated otherwise. This is what Soul Exchange is doing. Giving you special permission to offer an opponent's monster as tribute instead of one of your own.
 
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That makes sense!

Thanks that made sense there.
Thanks I will probably just ask you for info now.

Oh one more thing, umm... Does offer mean the same thing as Tribute in this case?
 
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Sprite: Thank you. ;)

Neo: I don't think you'll ever see the word "offer" not being used with the word "tribute". "Offering something as tribute" is precisely the same as "tributing". Hope that helps. :)
 
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Another Question

What if you have played "Soul Exchange" and you have 3 face-up "3-humped Lacooda" and you decide to use it's effect.
I think in this case you can offer one of there monsters instead but not get the effect... Not sure why I think this but please correct me if I'm rong. Because I think you can't.
 
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NeoAqua777 said:
What if you have played "Soul Exchange" and you have 3 face-up "3-humped Lacooda" and you decide to use it's effect.
I think in this case you can offer one of there monsters instead but not get the effect... Not sure why I think this but please correct me if I'm rong. Because I think you can't.
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dont think so either, Soul Exchange cannot be used as a "cost"

3 hump is an igination effect, so u must tribute 3 humps to use its effect.
 
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SS64 said:
dont think so either, Soul Exchange cannot be used as a "cost"

3 hump is an igination effect, so u must tribute 3 humps to use its effect.
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Untrue, you can offer the opponent's monster targeted by Soul Exchange as a cost for another effect (such as Metamorphosis) however 3 Hump Lacooda requires the proper tributes and the proper circumstances to be activated. So if you have 3 3-Hump Lacooda on your side of the field and you target one of your opponent's 3-Hump Lacooda (or 2 if you have 2 Soul Exchanges to play) then you could tribute your opponent's 3-Hump Lacooda(s) to activate your 3-Hump Lacooda's effect. But you could not tribute other monsters as they would not be 3-Hump Lacooda's. Just like you can't tribute any monster you want for a Gravekeeper's Cannonholder (they have to have Gravekeeper in their name). :)
 
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Like I said before, Soul Exchange only replaces what you can offer up as tribute. It doesn't replace any other requirement for the effect. So if the effect requires 3-Hump Lacoodas, then they cannot be replaced by anything else.

Anthony, you do realize that what you just said implies that I can offer my opponent's Exiled Force for the effect of my Exiled Force? I'm not saying it's wrong, but it certainly is ... interesting.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
Like I said before, Soul Exchange only replaces what you can offer up as tribute. It doesn't replace any other requirement for the effect. So if the effect requires 3-Hump Lacoodas, then they cannot be replaced by anything else.

Anthony, you do realize that what you just said implies that I can offer my opponent's Exiled Force for the effect of my Exiled Force? I'm not saying it's wrong, but it certainly is ... interesting.
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Technically not. Exiled Force is tributing itself. 3-Hump Lacooda is tributing 2 other 3-Hump Lacooda (not itself in any way). It isn't any different than the Gravekeeper's Cannonholder example.
 
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anthonyj said:
Untrue, you can offer the opponent's monster targeted by Soul Exchange as a cost for another effect (such as Metamorphosis) however 3 Hump Lacooda requires the proper tributes and the proper circumstances to be activated. So if you have 3 3-Hump Lacooda on your side of the field and you target one of your opponent's 3-Hump Lacooda (or 2 if you have 2 Soul Exchanges to play) then you could tribute your opponent's 3-Hump Lacooda(s) to activate your 3-Hump Lacooda's effect. But you could not tribute other monsters as they would not be 3-Hump Lacooda's. Just like you can't tribute any monster you want for a Gravekeeper's Cannonholder (they have to have Gravekeeper in their name). :)
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The key word could be "them" which if significant would be essentially the same as "This card"

3-Hump Lacooda would have to tribute among the monsters that satisfied its activation requirement.

Of course there's always the possibility that the card text is innacurate, and the "them" could be a word to make the card sound more fluent.
 
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