The New OCG Ban List

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i dont see whats so bad about this, from the looks of it they're trying to limit the one turn kill of Last Turn, and hand control format somewhat, but bare in mind ude doesnt have to follow suit, i wouldnt expect to see Exchange of the Spirit banned, as its not been used to widely here.
 
Graceful coming back surprises me, but maybe they are attempting to give Dark World a major boost.

As far as UDE following suit goes. I've yet to see us keep anything that is banned in OCG. We may further restrict or ban a card but we've never unbanned a banned OCG card. Or semi'd a limited, etc.

I'm kind of happy to see OCG taking some of our changes and adding them to this list (I was afraid it would be the other way around). I'll miss my extra Last Wills but other than that no complaints.
 
Well, one thing is sure. MoF becomes semi-limited, as the spellcaster structure came with 2. Well I'll be...

And if Mirror Force DOES come back I'll be able to use my 1 ultra and 2 supers at last! (even though I won't be able to show off my 2 super rare Dark Holes any more...)
 
Occasus_Tenshi said:
Well, one thing is sure. MoF becomes semi-limited, as the spellcaster structure came with 2. Well I'll be...

And if Mirror Force DOES come back I'll be able to use my 1 ultra and 2 supers at last! (even though I won't be able to show off my 2 super rare Dark Holes any more...)
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heh..i know what u mean OT...when i bought db2 packs i had like 3 super rare Mirror Force and one ultra rare one from mrd which ive had for a while...dang i miss Mirror Force...my favorite trap in the entire game...ill be so happy if they let us use it again...im getting kinda sick of sakus....
 
Digital Jedi said:
Wait, Victory Dragon? Isn't that one of those "You cannot use this card in a duel" cards?
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Victory Dragon
Dragon/Effect
Level 8
Atk/2400 Def/3000

This card can not be special summoned. You must sacrifice 3 dragon type monsters from your field in order to sacrifice summon this card. When this card does a direct attack to your opponent's life points and drops it to 0, the controller of this card wins the match.

Just for reference :p
 
No one has mentioned this, so I will. This ban list is for the OCG ONLY. The last time we had the OCG list come out first, everyone assumed straight away it would be the same in the TCG list and started making decks to reflect the list only to find out later that the list was different. The amount of arguments I saw and ended up having to fight because people didn't play the OCG list with TCG cards was ridiculous and annoying.

The list itself is a bit of a mixed bag. I am glad Black Hole is to be taken out of the game again and I hope the same happens here. But why didn't they ban Heavy Storm?. I would love to see the end of Single Card Mass Removals.
 
Jack Of All Decks said:
No one has mentioned this, so I will. This ban list is for the OCG ONLY.
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No one mentioned it, because that's already the title of the thread itself

"The New OCG Ban List"
 
You misunderstood what I meant by that. I meant that this ban list only applies to the OCG and may not reflect the same bans when the TCG list is brought out in April. It's for the people who think the following:-

'Cool, the new ban list is out, time to change my deck and meet this new list because the TCG will be exactly the same'

When the last came out, I had loads of people complaining to me that my deck didn't follow the new ban lists and this was down to the fact that they had assumed all the lists would be the same, even when Konami had clearly said that they list may not be the same.
 
I didnt misunderstand. Anyone who has been playing at least before the latest Ban should know by now that we didnt follow the OCG List for the October Ban, and should assume that we are going to do the same with April, unless they stay with the OCG for upcoming World Championship, and go back to separate ban list in October.

But realistically, if you see "OCG List", you can take with a grain of salt that we will see "some" of the cards banned that they have as well.
 
What's interesting about this particular banlist is not the cards that are on it, but rather the timing at which it comes up. The list will be in place (for Japan at least, we're not sure about here in the good ole' USofA) at the time of worlds. I'm interested in seeing exactly how they are going to orchestrate THAT. Will we be sharing this banlist, the American banlist, or will they create an entirely new banlist solely for the event? If you take the first of these possible scenarios as to be the most likely, then I would definitly take more notice of this particular list.
 
Actually, Itll be the best thing in the world if Konami/UDE make a seperate list for Worlds, You know why? becuase itll show true deck building skills.

look at all our contest that we have in the Advance Format, Everytime we see different things in just 1 week.

now for march, me and CR were already talking and itll interest EVERYBODY... Itll be one of the funest contests you will play in. hint: Itll be mostly green.

but yea, If they do make a seperate list Ill give props to the winners, Ill personally send them a letter saying that they get major props for showing the world what true deck making skillz is all about.

non of the 8 decks all the same. Last years nationals... dude... ::nods head in shame::

we lost. USA EVEN WITH THEIR COOKIE CUTER WAY WE LOST! how does that happen????

so finally if konami is smart they will get on the ball to do something original, and that will be roxer.

also Jack of all Cards, we all here know this is for OCG, basically this will be a UDE base structure.

last list the only difference was 5 cards. thats preaty much what may or may not happen to this list when it crosses over to the OCG. we all are very aware of this, dont worry :D
 
shadowdragon said:
i dont see whats so bad about this, from the looks of it they're trying to limit the one turn kill of Last Turn, and hand control format somewhat, but bare in mind ude doesnt have to follow suit, i wouldnt expect to see Exchange of the Spirit banned, as its not been used to widely here.
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You would think that to be the case, but didn't that very thing happen with Makyura the Destructor? I don't think it even got to see play before it was banned.
Jack Of All Decks said:
No one has mentioned this, so I will. This ban list is for the OCG ONLY.
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Well, the thread title not withstanding, examination of the OCG list gives us an idea as to what coming. This is pretty much why AnthonyJ makes the comments he does about the patterns the OCG and the TCG ban lists follow. This thread was always about specualtion and how one can glean what to expect.

Now as far as the people that went ahead and jumped the gun, that's their fault for being misinformed. The official sources present this information qiute openly, and if they relied on mere speculation and hersey when constructing their decks, then they only have themselves to blame.
 
With all hope that this is what we recieve I feel it would be a great improvement from the current meta. Of course Warrior Tool - Box will still run wild it will be greatly slowed down with out the Use of the Assailants. Of course out list still has it's differences being that the released cards will always differ, but hopefully we will see Book of Taiyu unlimited, and a few other changes.

What makes me chuckle the most about this ban list is how it would make the price value of certain cards drop quickly all over the "Ebay" and online market. If we do recieve this Ebay and other auction sites will be flooded with DDA's and Widespreads(since Mirror Force would be comming back) and thus making the number of auctions increase and the price decrease, much like when Dark Magician of Chaos became limited to 1 per deck and everyone with 3 plus decided to sell off there extras being that they really only needed one. I remember picking up a few for only 5 dollars soon after that ban list was released. If this is the ban list we recieve, I could some dissapointed faces when people start losing interest on some currently high "trade bait" cards.
 
I'm disapointed, found this out almost immediately after it was out there. The American Ban list should or will resemble the OCG one, for Worlds. But I don't think it matters anyways. US won't make it close to top 8 at worlds. :p They never do.

USUALLY the US banlists are more well..."devastating" to our cookie cut habits. They usually destroy decks we have and make us adapt to a new deck. And I really don't think Mirror Force OR Graceful Charity should come back, they are good, we don't need good cards to come back, we need them to stay gone, and we need to lose more good cards.

They go on the ban list for a reason. They should stay on there until they have been rehabilitated (lose power).

I'm -hoping- the American list will bring me a smile, like the last one did when it came out. :D
 
I tend to agree with you complex....the TCG could stand to lose a few more of the "good" cards, to try an stir up some new and creative deck types.....i'm sick of seeing the same kind of decks over and over and over

just have to see what april brings us on the tcg ban list *fingers crossed*
 
Digital Jedi said:
Well, the thread title not withstanding, examination of the OCG list gives us an idea as to what coming. This is pretty much why AnthonyJ makes the comments he does about the patterns the OCG and the TCG ban lists follow. This thread was always about specualtion and how one can glean what to expect.

Now as far as the people that went ahead and jumped the gun, that's their fault for being misinformed. The official sources present this information qiute openly, and if they relied on mere speculation and hersey when constructing their decks, then they only have themselves to blame.
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I would agree to that, it certainly gives duelists an idea. The only thing that annoyed me last time was that duelists all assumed it was the official ban list which ticked me off no end as many wouldn't accept a duel unless it followed the OCG banlist. So it made practicing really difficult before major events. I have no idea what the TCG ban list will bring, but I hope a few of the cards I like to see changed or banned will be there.

As for the OCG Game, I am not too familiar with their metagame so I gather what they have gone for is because cards like Mask of Darkness and Last Will are heavily abused, perhapes for the Rescue Cat combo. Magician of Faith I feel should have stayed at 1 as Spells are easier to activate than other cards.

Mirror Force, guarenteed staple when it comes out, a lot of people will run it in their decks. I've felt it is an unfair card but next to Black Hole, I guess it makes sense to have Mirror Force. Tribe Infecting Virus, what can you say, another overabused staple in decks but with the loss of free discards through Night Assailant and Sinister Serpent, maybe they should have left it behind.
 
I forgot to add. The only reason the TCG list will/should be different from the OCG list is because TCG gets a new list every 6 months instead of 4.

So bigger changes with more time evens out with minor changes with less time.
 
An update every quarter or perhapes three times a year sounds a little more interesting than just having 2. It will certainly keep people on their toes and make the game a little more challenging. Besides playing the with and against the same deck gets boring, this could add a little more thought to the game.
 
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