Trample effects and trample equips.

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anthonyj

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Okay, since we know that I can equip my opponents monster with Fairy Meteor Crush and he'll take all the damage for killing one of my poor little defense position scapegoats. I wanted to clarify this scenario.

Player A has Airknight Parshath on the field.
Player B has equipped that Airknight with Fairy Meteor Crush.
Player A attacks Player B's def position scapegoat.

Will both players receive battle damage? I believe so because Airknight will trample with his own effect and Fairy Meteor will inflict back upon the opponent.
 
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Fairy Meteor Crush--Equip Spell
When your monster equipped with this card attacks with an ATK that is higher than the DEF of your opponent's Defense Position monster, inflict the difference in Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points.

Note the wording "your monster".

Since, according to Netrep, UDE never errata'd "your monster" to "a monster", the Netrep ruling is wrong. As I see it, you could equip FMC to an opponent's monster, but that monster would have no trample effect whatsoever.

Thoughts?
 
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From the FAQ, this is the updated text and rulings. Check out the middle one.

Fairy Meteor Crush
Equip Spell

When a monster equipped with this card attacks with an ATK that is higher than the DEF of a Defense Position monster, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points.

"¢ You cannot double the effect of "Fairy Meteor Crush" by equipping two copies to the same monster.

"¢ If you equip your "Fairy Meteor Crush" to an opponent's monster, and it attacks a Defense Position monster on your side of the field with ATK greater than your monster's DEF, the opponent will take the difference as Battle Damage. This is because "your opponent" is the opponent of the player who controls "Fairy Meteor Crush" not necessarily the opponent of the player who controls the monster.

"¢ " Kuriboh" or "Waboku" can be used to prevent the damage caused by "Fairy Meteor Crush" because it is Battle Damage.
 
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How in the world did you guys come up with that ruling? I have never heard of such things in all my days of playing Yu-Gi-Oh. How are you still controlling a card on your opponents side of the field? Please explain, because this is the most out of the world ruling I have ever seen. It's almost to the point of stupidity. Help me out a little.
 
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Here is the text of Fairy Meteor Crush:

Fairy Meteor Crush
Equip Spell
When a monster equipped with this card attacks with an ATK that is higher than the DEF of a Defense Position monster, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points.

If you still don't get it, let me know.
 
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Ultralord said:
How in the world did you guys come up with that ruling? I have never heard of such things in all my days of playing Yu-Gi-Oh. How are you still controlling a card on your opponents side of the field? Please explain, because this is the most out of the world ruling I have ever seen. It's almost to the point of stupidity. Help me out a little.
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It's not on your opponent's side of the field. It is equipped to your opponent's monster, but still occupies one of your M/T slots (and therefore cannot overlap that monster for logistical reasons, but is still equipped).
 
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Okay, now everything makes complete and total sense. I guess since the situation rarely ever comes up, I didn't realize that the equip card remains in your own slot. Thanx.
 
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anthonyj said:
Okay, since we know that I can equip my opponents monster with Fairy Meteor Crush and he'll take all the damage for killing one of my poor little defense position scapegoats. I wanted to clarify this scenario.

Player A has Airknight Parshath on the field.
Player B has equipped that Airknight with Fairy Meteor Crush.
Player A attacks Player B's def position scapegoat.

Will both players receive battle damage? I believe so because Airknight will trample with his own effect and Fairy Meteor will inflict back upon the opponent.
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O.K. I thougth that you CANNOT equip a equip card to a monster that has trample "Curtis" that would
be like equipping "Twin Swords of Flashing Light" on "Haybusa Knight" can he now attack 4 times in one
turn (NO) so "Airknight as trample that is her effect you can not add to it.
 
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Torx the Dragon said:
anthonyj said:
Okay, since we know that I can equip my opponents monster with Fairy Meteor Crush and he'll take all the damage for killing one of my poor little defense position scapegoats. I wanted to clarify this scenario.

Player A has Airknight Parshath on the field.
Player B has equipped that Airknight with Fairy Meteor Crush.
Player A attacks Player B's def position scapegoat.

Will both players receive battle damage? I believe so because Airknight will trample with his own effect and Fairy Meteor will inflict back upon the opponent.
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O.K. I thougth that you CANNOT equip a equip card to a monster that has trample "Curtis" that would
be like equipping "Twin Swords of Flashing Light" on "Haybusa Knight" can he now attack 4 times in one
turn (NO) so "Airknight as trample that is her effect you can not add to it.
:wizard:
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There's nothing stopping you from equipping "Twin Swords" to "Hayabusa Knight" either. Both effects allow for the monster to attack twice, that's all. Equipping "Fairy Meteor Crush" to your own "Airknight Parshath" pretty much just yields the same effect. However, equipping it to your opponent's monster means you are both going to get that effect... him for what's printed on "Airknight" and you for what's printed on "FMC".

- A
 
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OLD Jugde sit:post 9966(double overflow- May 17 04)
Answer "Equipping "Airknight Parshath" with "Fairy Meteor Chush" would be pointless. You would be giving the "Airknight Parshath" an effect it already has."
Curtis
Has thia changed,I have not read it or find it point it out ?????

:wizard:
 
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Just a poor choice of words. It would have been better to have said, "Equipping Airknight Parshath with Fairy Meteor Crush will not inflict any additional damage, just as equipping Hayabusa Knight with Twin Flashing Swords would not increase the attacks beyond the 2 it already had.

Pointless doesn't take into account the possibility that Skill Drain gets activated, Mage Power is also equipped, etc. etc.

The comment was simply attempting to state that giving trample to a monster that already has it is redundant.
 
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Torx the Dragon said:
OLD Jugde sit:post 9966(double overflow- May 17 04)
Answer "Equipping "Airknight Parshath" with "Fairy Meteor Chush" would be pointless. You would be giving the "Airknight Parshath" an effect it already has."
  Curtis
Has thia changed,I have not read it or find it point it out ?????

:wizard:
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No, that has not changed.  Note that Curits said it would be "pointless", he didn't say is was not a valid play of the cards.  That question actually had to do with equipping your OWN Airknight, I believe it was to attempt to double the trample damage.  It is legal to equip your own Airknight with Fairy Meteor Crush, but it is somewhat "pointless" as the effects both do the same thing.  They do not "stack", so no advantage is gained.

On the other hand, equipping your opponent's Airknight will have the effect described in the rulings:
"¢ If you equip your "Fairy Meteor Crush" to an opponent's monster, and it attacks a Defense Position monster on your side of the field with ATK greater than your monster's DEF, the opponent will take the difference as Battle Damage. This is because "your opponent" is the opponent of the player who controls "Fairy Meteor Crush" not necessarily the opponent of the player who controls the monster.
 
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No. FMC doesn't change Airknight's own effect. Airknight will trample all by himself. But if he is equipped with the opponent's FMC the FMC will trample the controller of Airknight too.
 
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