They're destroyed since they're effect activates in the graveyard. The timing is off technically since they're effect activates in the graveyard. So it's flipped face up, then it burns in Ha Des. (and effects activate, blah blah blah)
Edit: with Kozaky's self destruct buttion. Whoever...
Well I'm just curious. Can't you activate Bait Doll on your own traps? Even though you just set them the rulings say you can't activate them, but what about a spell or trap? I heard since you just set them that the timing is off...but that makes no sense at all......
this makes my head hurt....
From what maju effect says it would be zero...because it says the atk and defense not the original and if the original atk is ? then the original atk is zero. The same goes for Great Maju. When he is put face down and flipped again his atk is zero.
So i think you can.... it just does zero....
Well, from what I can see......
The Magician of Faith can not be flipped because.....Cyber Jar says that you can pick which way to summon it....Face up attack or face down defense and that would count as the manual change for the turn.
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