StRiKe_NiNjA said:
1. So effect battle changes from other card effects will not "burn up" for a manual position change during that turn? Mind blowing really... can you explain why it was changed this way?
The reason for this is that it's been played this way in Japan since the start. We were the ones that screwed that up with effect changes making a manual change impossible.
I know I'll get ragged on for this one, but it's the way every single Yu-Gi-Oh video game has been since the start as well. Yes, yes, video games are not sources for rulings, but when every game does the position changes the exact same way, you know there's something fishy right there.
A couple of months back, I actually wrote to Konami of Japan, half of the higher level judges that had e-mail addresses available, and UDE themselves about this issue. I doubt they listened to me, but if they did, it'd be highly cool, to me anyway.
If you look at it from a standpoint about video games not being a rules source, if there was a problem with a ruling in a previous game, the new game would have that fixed. (Although even on the new games, you can't activate
Ceasefire unless there's a card face-down, so I figure there's either a rulings dispute there, or the game is wrong, obviously.) The battle position change issue has been there for at least 3 years though, plenty of time to fix it, if it was wrong. That's one of my takes on it, but I had heard for a long time that's how it was played in Japan.
Now, as for issue #2, as densetsu_x said, they wouldn't be able to change back battle position in Main Phase 2 if effected by
Enemy Controller when it attacked. A manual change is allowed once per turn, unless the creature has been summoned that turn, or has attacked that turn. I'll give some examples here to help:
With only one creature out:
If the creature declares attack and
Enemy Controller,
Book of Moon,
Zero Gravity,
Windstorm of Etaqua, etc. is used to switch their position, the attack is stopped, and the creature cannot change battle positions manually in Main Phase 2 because it declared attack. In other words, don't
Book of Moon in Main Phase 1.
With multiple creatures out:
Enemy Controller,
Book of Moon, and other single target cards apply the same to the creature you use it on if said creature declared attack.
Zero Gravity,
Windstorm of Etaqua, and other multi-target cards; the creature that declared attack and was switched to defense position cannot be switched back to attack position in MP2, any others
Shifted from attack to defense can switch back in MP2 as long as they weren't just summoned that turn, and any others
Shifted from defense to attack could
Shift back to defense in MP2 as long as they weren't summoned that turn, nor attacked that turn.
I hope this might help clear up the problems for anyone having them. I know there's quite a few, but once you remember the key facts of
not summoned and
didn't attack this turn, it should be simple to remember that
1 manual position change is allowed.
