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Here's the thing. I don't pretend that winning isn't important to people, considering it is a tournament environ, it should have a mark of urgency. What I see is people basing their deck on the same theme because it is a tested and proven strategy. However, I do not believe that most people play this kind of deck because this is the ONLY deck type that will win them games. I believe they do this because t is the EASIEST route to victory. There are deck themes in this game that are just as strong as Chaos or any other CC. But they are largely ignored as a "competitive deck". The get labeled "fun decks" by both CC players and original thinkers alike. Therein lies the problem.

Most people have already accepted non-standard builds as "fun" or incapable of winning. They've already lost with the deck before they've actually played with it. I don't think this way. I believe that if their were as many people focusing in on the non-standard builds as there were on something like Chaos, then there would be much more variety in this game. As it stands, players are taught when they first come into this game that only a handful of cards are "good cards" and the rest are useless. Their taught before they can even get started that certain cards are worth it. And sadly they are taught this by every type of player in this game. Both the CC players AND the original thinkers.

As long as the original thinkers continue to believe that they are playing "fun decks" but nothing more, then there will be no variety among competitive players. There will be no change if they players that complain about a lack of variety do not take variety seriously. You can win with originality. You can win with a non-standard build. This is my personal mission in this game. To prove that it can be done. But alone, it will take me a very very long time. I hope that the players like me, who also believe in variety and original thinking, will stop treating their own creations with as much (or even less) respect as the CC players they try to not be like. Take your creation seriously and stop calling it a "fun deck". EVERY deck should be a fun deck. "Fun" should not be synonymous with "losing".
 
english chef said:
Hmmm- on the rare occaisions that I have gone to a regionals (using GK and Inaba/ojama/panda decks), The first few people I played were usually using much the same deck. Then as I won a few, lost a few, and settled into the mid-level of the players, I started to find some more interesting decks. These were good players (perhaps not top-rate, but then, neither am I) who were playing with innovative/different decks. We played, and some beat me, and I beat some of them, and we talked afterwards, and we came to the conclusion that the most interesting games were those against the 'different' decks. Furthermore, these people were generally a lot nicer that those playing ultra competitively. Im not saying that those playing CC were total gits, but that they didnt come across as well as the oddballs.
Personally, I lay a lot of the problem at the feet of the teams out there. Everytime I see an announcement on a website that John Smith of Team Unoriginal placed 3rd, and that Jane Doe of Team Miserable came 2nd, and look at the decklisting of all the top 8, and see that most of the teams run the same cards and that on the rare occaision that an oddball deck gets listed, it is not a team member who is playing it. If 200 people go to an event, and this comprises of 100 team members, then those 100 team members will generally have similar decks. Only the lone wolfs are likely to play something unusual, as the teams will not allow individuality. This I think is the crux of the matter.
Ban teams, and originality would be more respectable.
Maybe, we should start a team of Orginal Thinkers. Something online that has an international flavo. Hmm.....
 
Digital Jedi said:
Here's the thing. I don't pretend that winning isn't important to people, considering it is a tournament environ, it should have a mark of urgency. What I see is people basing their deck on the same theme because it is a tested and proven strategy. However, I do not believe that most people play this kind of deck because this is the ONLY deck type that will win them games. I believe they do this because t is the EASIEST route to victory. There are deck themes in this game that are just as strong as Chaos or any other CC. But they are largely ignored as a "competitive deck". The get labeled "fun decks" by both CC players and original thinkers alike. Therein lies the problem.

Most people have already accepted non-standard builds as "fun" or incapable of winning. They've already lost with the deck before they've actually played with it. I don't think this way. I believe that if their were as many people focusing in on the non-standard builds as there were on something like Chaos, then there would be much more variety in this game. As it stands, players are taught when they first come into this game that only a handful of cards are "good cards" and the rest are useless. Their taught before they can even get started that certain cards are worth it. And sadly they are taught this by every type of player in this game. Both the CC players AND the original thinkers.

As long as the original thinkers continue to believe that they are playing "fun decks" but nothing more, then there will be no variety among competitive players. There will be no change if they players that complain about a lack of variety do not take variety seriously. You can win with originality. You can win with a non-standard build. This is my personal mission in this game. To prove that it can be done. But alone, it will take me a very very long time. I hope that the players like me, who also believe in variety and original thinking, will stop treating their own creations with as much (or even less) respect as the CC players they try to not be like. Take your creation seriously and stop calling it a "fun deck". EVERY deck should be a fun deck. "Fun" should not be synonymous with "losing".

That is exactly what I am planning on doing. See it is one thing for me to run a Water Dragon Deck (Bastion Misawa focused Deck) and have it called fun, but it is another to actually have it tourney worthy and can stand toe-to-toe with the other top Decks and actually win. When I use cards like Water Dragon or A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon, even a Double Spell or Recycle, it will most likely confuse my opponent. When I used Premature Burial on my Seiyaryu in one match, my opponent had no idea what I was planning and did not bother to waste the Bottomless Trap Hole face-down. Then I just used A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon to send it back to my hand, at which point I asked if they were chaining, since they had nothing I activated Raigeki Break to destroy their only monster and then unless my fury on them. I cannot actually do this since as you said, it will take a long time. I am giving myself 2 years until something whether it be more Misawa cards or other cards that gives me enough of an edge and reason for Water Dragon to be playable. Diamond Dude if the rumors are true is the first step in that. We need teams of original Deck players. Until then we will get as you said with teams and tournies.

So when I do eventually win a SJC or whatever and I get interviewed I want to show those naysayers that it can be done and give the other CC users who ruin this game the finger figuratively and rub it in their face that they lost to a supposed "fun" Deck.
 
Tiso said:
That is exactly what I am planning on doing. See it is one thing for me to run a Water Dragon Deck (Bastion Misawa focused Deck) and have it called fun, but it is another to actually have it tourney worthy and can stand toe-to-toe with the other top Decks and actually win. When I use cards like Water Dragon or A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon, even a Double Spell or Recycle, it will most likely confuse my opponent. When I used Premature Burial on my Seiyaryu in one match, my opponent had no idea what I was planning and did not bother to waste the Bottomless Trap Hole face-down. Then I just used A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon to send it back to my hand, at which point I asked if they were chaining, since they had nothing I activated Raigeki Break to destroy their only monster and then unless my fury on them. I cannot actually do this since as you said, it will take a long time. I am giving myself 2 years until something whether it be more Misawa cards or other cards that gives me enough of an edge and reason for Water Dragon to be playable. Diamond Dude if the rumors are true is the first step in that. We need teams of original Deck players. Until then we will get as you said with teams and tournies.

So when I do eventually win a SJC or whatever and I get interviewed I want to show those naysayers that it can be done and give the other CC users who ruin this game the finger figuratively and rub it in their face that they lost to a supposed "fun" Deck.
I typed something, I guess my Laptop thought it wasnt worth typeing, im not repeating my self except for this.

Prove it. all you got to do is prove it.
 
Tiso said:
When I used Premature Burial on my Seiyaryu in one match, my opponent had no idea what I was planning and did not bother to waste the Bottomless Trap Hole face-down.

Your opponent must've been pretty stupid not to activate his Bottomless Trap Hole.

Honestly, I think you need a reality check. Some cards are clearly better than others, hence their more common usage in tournaments and hobby stores. You can play with what you want, but unless your cards have effects that are just as good as other players' cards, chances are, you won't be winning a whole lot.

If you don't want to win, and simply want to play for fun with whatever innovative deck you create, go for it, but don't whine about the CCs like there's no tomorrow.
 
magnumcyclonex said:
Your opponent must've been pretty stupid not to activate his Bottomless Trap Hole.

Honestly, I think you need a reality check. Some cards are clearly better than others, hence their more common usage in tournaments and hobby stores. You can play with what you want, but unless your cards have effects that are just as good as other players' cards, chances are, you won't be winning a whole lot.

If you don't want to win, and simply want to play for fun with whatever innovative deck you create, go for it, but don't whine about the CCs like there's no tomorrow.
I refer back to my previous post. Post #120.
 
Digital Jedi said:
I refer back to my previous post. Post #120.
Lately the moment a player says, "Oh its a Fun Deck" is the moment when they tell their opponent "Win or lose it doesnt matter I will not complain"

Problem is, they do. Simple they do. If all my decks were "Fun Decks" then yea, i guess i would have a higher loss ratio than i actually do, why? because the term is saying, "I dont mind if i win or lose, If i win, then i win, if i lose then so be it."

But we got players that say, "Oh I beat you, With my fun deck" like if they are trying to prove something, Or they say, "oh its just my fun deck, My competative deck is at home or in my bag" what ever... Say all you want, "fun deck" is no excuse to be a jerk about it if you win or lose.

now you go saying, "This is the deck I am test playing" then you got something there, Cuase then you can discuss about plays that you did right or that you did wrong.

I play MTGO and there is a buddy on there i frequent testing new deck ideas and so forth, and not a single of my decks do we call them fun. They are deck ideas that we are testing to see how good or bad they are.

My multiplayer deck, while yes it is fun, the point for that enviroment is to have fun. But at the same time i wish to win. so I would make a Competative yet entertaining deck.

where, my win conditioin is an entertainment for thouse around me to see and not just some weak jerk thing were i go, "oh and this was my fun deck"

heck nah, I say, "This is my multiplayer deck, I had fun playing with you fellas. :D"

when we testplay decks here at home, some of my friends go, "Oh its just a fun deck, lets test play it"

so i go and take out my competative deck and they at the end of the game reply with, "its just a fun deck bro" yea its just a Fun for your self deck but you did state Test play, Meaning you want to put it up for a competative enviroment and see if you will continue with the design and idea of the deck.

overall people need to realise that the word fun, isnt synonimous with the word Lose. Fun = Entertainment no matter what the outcome of the game is and both players or atleast the one playing it should be curtious enough to say, "I had a blast, hopefully we play again another time" :)
 
magnumcyclonex said:
Your opponent must've been pretty stupid not to activate his Bottomless Trap Hole.

Honestly, I think you need a reality check. Some cards are clearly better than others, hence their more common usage in tournaments and hobby stores. You can play with what you want, but unless your cards have effects that are just as good as other players' cards, chances are, you won't be winning a whole lot.

If you don't want to win, and simply want to play for fun with whatever innovative deck you create, go for it, but don't whine about the CCs like there's no tomorrow.

No, my opponent actually was wondering what I was doing bringing back Seiyaryu in the first place. Given the fact that he had 3 FD cards on his field, one being Bottomless Trap Hole, the other being Dust Tornado. When you see something unexpected you have no idea what your opponent is going to do. That is why he did not see A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon coming. He assumed I was just going to attack him.
 
krazykidpsx said:
Lately the moment a player says, "Oh its a Fun Deck" is the moment when they tell their opponent "Win or lose it doesnt matter I will not complain"

Problem is, they do. Simple they do. If all my decks were "Fun Decks" then yea, i guess i would have a higher loss ratio than i actually do, why? because the term is saying, "I dont mind if i win or lose, If i win, then i win, if i lose then so be it."

But we got players that say, "Oh I beat you, With my fun deck" like if they are trying to prove something, Or they say, "oh its just my fun deck, My competative deck is at home or in my bag" what ever... Say all you want, "fun deck" is no excuse to be a jerk about it if you win or lose.

now you go saying, "This is the deck I am test playing" then you got something there, Cuase then you can discuss about plays that you did right or that you did wrong.

I play MTGO and there is a buddy on there i frequent testing new deck ideas and so forth, and not a single of my decks do we call them fun. They are deck ideas that we are testing to see how good or bad they are.

My multiplayer deck, while yes it is fun, the point for that enviroment is to have fun. But at the same time i wish to win. so I would make a Competative yet entertaining deck.

where, my win conditioin is an entertainment for thouse around me to see and not just some weak jerk thing were i go, "oh and this was my fun deck"

heck nah, I say, "This is my multiplayer deck, I had fun playing with you fellas. :D"

when we testplay decks here at home, some of my friends go, "Oh its just a fun deck, lets test play it"

so i go and take out my competative deck and they at the end of the game reply with, "its just a fun deck bro" yea its just a Fun for your self deck but you did state Test play, Meaning you want to put it up for a competative enviroment and see if you will continue with the design and idea of the deck.

overall people need to realise that the word fun, isnt synonimous with the word Lose. Fun = Entertainment no matter what the outcome of the game is and both players or atleast the one playing it should be curtious enough to say, "I had a blast, hopefully we play again another time" :)

No, there is a difference between complaining you lost with your "fun Deck" especially if it is going against some CC monsterosity and losing with your "fun Deck" against something that is ___ [insert word here]. I will complain that I lost if my opponent "Goes Good Game" and he beats me using these cheap CC tactics that was just disgusting to look at. It is a good game to me when both players are not finished off in a few turns, where it builds up, and where each round we keep doing something (although their are the slow times). Even still, you shove it down their throats that they lost to a "fun Deck." You just proved it can be done, you can win it a "fun Deck" and knock those CC users down a peg or 2. The problem is, they should not be called "fun Deck" and classified as such. That is your problem that you cannot get past.

It is one thing to have your "fun Deck" being played and tested. It is another to have a tourney capitable and winning "fun Deck" that not only did not get splashed into a CC Deck, such as a CC Ojama Deck or a CC Water Dragon Deck, but it actually made it on its own theme alone with the theme support cards and etc to maintain its theme, structure, and originality.
 
Tiso said:
No, my opponent actually was wondering what I was doing bringing back Seiyaryu in the first place. Given the fact that he had 3 FD cards on his field, one being Bottomless Trap Hole, the other being Dust Tornado. When you see something unexpected you have no idea what your opponent is going to do. That is why he did not see A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon coming. He assumed I was just going to attack him.

Then your opponent is less astute than you initially described him to be. Any sane player would get rid of the threat when the opportunity arises. According to you, he had 2 outs on that situation: Dust and Bottomless. Had he done so, you would've had to summon another level 5 or higher dragon monster to use Wingbeat.

Any monster with over 2000atk is obviously a big threat. Why your opponent waited to see what you could do is beyond my comprehension. If I were your opponent, I'd have used Dust in a chain to Premature.

Tiso. Go to tournaments. You will learn a lot more about why CC decks are good and how they work. You will also see others using non-CC decks and having a good time, win or lose. Better yet, go to a local hobby store, sign up for their Hobby League and play with the aim to win with whatever deck you want.
 
magnumcyclonex said:
Then your opponent is less astute than you initially described him to be. Any sane player would get rid of the threat when the opportunity arises. According to you, he had 2 outs on that situation: Dust and Bottomless. Had he done so, you would've had to summon another level 5 or higher dragon monster to use Wingbeat.

Any monster with over 2000atk is obviously a big threat. Why your opponent waited to see what you could do is beyond my comprehension. If I were your opponent, I'd have used Dust in a chain to Premature.

Tiso. Go to tournaments. You will learn a lot more about why CC decks are good and how they work. You will also see others using non-CC decks and having a good time, win or lose. Better yet, go to a local hobby store, sign up for their Hobby League and play with the aim to win with whatever deck you want.

Wow, you are now bashing the opponent I played against? Fantastic. No really. Your opinion from now on is null and void. Thank you. Given the fact that my opponent was trying to figure out what I was doing and to best maximize the best usage out of his cards. Why waste a Dust Tornado on a face-down when your opponent can then chain the face-down Mystical Space Typhoon to destroy another card of yours? It is called playing smart and knowing when to gain your advantage. How would he had seen A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon coming? I had 1 card left in my hand when I used it, Seiyaryu that was just returned. Wasting a Bottomless Trap Hole on it would have been pointless since he knew the best opportunity for me was to attack with both of them. Seriously dude, that is not cool. Your opinion is null and void by from now on if you are going to call even my opponents like that.
 
Tiso said:
Wow, you are now bashing the opponent I played against? Fantastic. No really. Your opinion from now on is null and void. Thank you. Given the fact that my opponent was trying to figure out what I was doing and to best maximize the best usage out of his cards. Why waste a Dust Tornado on a face-down when your opponent can then chain the face-down Mystical Space Typhoon to destroy another card of yours? It is called playing smart and knowing when to gain your advantage. How would he had seen A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon coming? I had 1 card left in my hand when I used it, Seiyaryu that was just returned. Wasting a Bottomless Trap Hole on it would have been pointless since he knew the best opportunity for me was to attack with both of them. Seriously dude, that is not cool. Your opinion is null and void by from now on if you are going to call even my opponents like that.

Given what you've said about the situation in previous posts, I simply pointed out the smart ways your opponent could have handled the situation (Premature Burial on your Seiyaryu). Any other player would've used his Dust or Bottomless, but yours did not. IMO, that was not a smart move. Since you had 1 card left in hand, you could've been stuck with Wingbeat after Seiyaryu had been rfg'ed by Bottomless.

If my opinion is null and void, then please save yourself the trouble of responding to this very post. Do not take my advice of going to tournaments and experiencing varied metas, deck ideas and the mentality of your local players. Instead, you may keep on saying that you are "researching" and waiting for the "right" cards to build a non-CC deck and win a SJC with it.
 
Tiso, magnum said your oponent was "less astute than you initially described him to be". I don't see anything "bashing" or "insulting" by this statement, so please, lets move passed it. It doesn't strike me as a paticular smart move either, especially if he were in a position of loosing to a 200 ATKer. But I see the point of what you were getting at.
 
Digital, calling my opponent less astute is a bash. He is saying that when opportunity had it (and who is to say if what you say is the best situation to do this and that in since you have no idea what was in my opponent's hand or in our Graveyards to make that call on). I already saw his plan when his cards was destroyed. He was going to destroy my Water Dragon with his face-down Sakuretsu Armor, then Bottomless Trap Hole my 3 monsters. Now had I Special Summoned my Kaiser Glider instead I would have played right into his hands and he would have won that. Either scenario I was fine in had he Dust Tornado my Premature Burial. Either get his Bottomless Trap Hole or I get his Sakuretsu Armor from my Raigeki Break when I discard my A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon. He knew I had Torrential Tribute in my Graveyard, but had no idea I ran Raigeki Break. No as far as I am concerned, his opinion when it comes to my posts or replies is null & void as far as I am concerned. That was just downright disrespectful to my opponent, let alone me and further shows how closed minded people are.
 
Tiso said:
Digital, calling my opponent less astute is a bash. He is saying that when opportunity had it (and who is to say if what you say is the best situation to do this and that in since you have no idea what was in my opponent's hand or in our Graveyards to make that call on). I already saw his plan when his cards was destroyed. He was going to destroy my Water Dragon with his face-down Sakuretsu Armor, then Bottomless Trap Hole my 3 monsters. Now had I Special Summoned my Kaiser Glider instead I would have played right into his hands and he would have won that. Either scenario I was fine in had he Dust Tornado my Premature Burial. Either get his Bottomless Trap Hole or I get his Sakuretsu Armor from my Raigeki Break when I discard my A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon. He knew I had Torrential Tribute in my Graveyard, but had no idea I ran Raigeki Break. No as far as I am concerned, his opinion when it comes to my posts or replies is null & void as far as I am concerned. That was just downright disrespectful to my opponent, let alone me and further shows how closed minded people are.
To be fair, if you only give part of the scenario, what do you expect to happen? If you wanted someone to ask for the rest, I dont think that was indicated or hinted at.

If I tell you that someone ran into my parked car, the natural assumption would be that it was in a parking lot, or maybe parked in front of an establishment.

If I then say, it was only parked because I made a complete stop in Traffic at a red light, got rear-ended, and then after I put it in park to check the damage, someone else hit my car again.

That's a completely different outlook, with a whole lot more that would have not otherwise have been able to deduce just from "my parked car got hit".
 
Again with the issues Tiso...::Sigh:: seriously, lay off. lay off the TV and the Yu-Gi-Oh! show and everything and get your self in check.

This isnt the television, we arnt gonna make moves like they do on the television. if that were the case your name would oviosly be Joey and the rest of the world Yugi and Seto.

so please... Other than nulling the thoughts and opinions of a fellow player you might as well just start ignoring this entire thread.

yesterday I played Yugi again with my friends "CC" deck vs. My brothers Warrior Rush deck. They had been going back and forth in the win lose ratio and my friend says, "Here take a break from magic" so i started playing, the scenarios i got were so quick that it didnt take me long to know when i would win.

If you hand consists of
Cyber dragon, Sangan, Offerings to the doomed, and sakuretsu armor and the opponents field is.
1 face down, face up, Command Knight with Ninja Grand master, what is the best move?

just set the sangan with the sakuretsu armor, hoping the face down isnt a negator/destruction

Or

Special summon, Destroy command and attack for 300 damage, then set sangan?

there are multiple moves you could have done, but the best move, what is it.

Im gonna tell from right now ive probably played this game much longer than you have to know and realise what the best move was out of all the cards that i had.

The end game looked like this.

D.D. Warrior lady, and tsukuyomi
opponent with a face up Royal Decree and 1 set.

i have premature burial and havent summoned yet.

what is the best move when they are at 3400 and the cyber dragon is in the grave?

show my entire hand to them, by sacrificing summoning mobius destroy the spells then special summon the chaos sorcerer or just pramture and win it there?

Oh and btw the other players around me were like, You should have over killed, what the hell.

the problem here is that, I know that royal decree is helping me more than its helping my opponent, they just set to bluff a Scapegoat, If it were scapegoat no matter what mvoe i did, they would have activated it and i would have been left with no hand. In this case I just did the simple move to go for the kill, and if they did have a way to stop it with a quickplay then so be it, they will only have 1 turn left and lose when it came back to me becuase of the ovious power house that i have.

also if i would have summoned mobious to destroy, it would have left me without trap protection comming from my opponents end, so i do the whole waste my hand thing and kill my end game becuase every other player and their mom loves mobious.

No i dont think so. Never show your opponent all you got in your deck, only show them what you want to show them.

so again, if CC is so easy to play with, would that imply by your point of view that no matter what route i took i would have still won?

remember once i lose trap protection i could see a mirror force smack me in the face, and the most i have for traps is a torrential tribute.

kill my board for 1 creature, no i dont think so. but try and attack and still get my creatures killed, good going huh... oviously the "better" move.

Every player here on COG has had years of playing and playing and playing in various different envirioments, some from casual enviroments to others with alot more competative enviroments, You dont have to diss somebody because you have issues, get over your self and respect your fellow players. You might learn a thing or to from them.
 
Get over myself and respect players? Are you serious. krazykidpsx, you run a CC Deck. That is nothing to be proud off nor does it demand respect. Talk to me again when you win a tourney with something other than the same build everyone else has.
 
masterwoo0 said:
To be fair, if you only give part of the scenario, what do you expect to happen? If you wanted someone to ask for the rest, I dont think that was indicated or hinted at.

If I tell you that someone ran into my parked car, the natural assumption would be that it was in a parking lot, or maybe parked in front of an establishment.

If I then say, it was only parked because I made a complete stop in Traffic at a red light, got rear-ended, and then after I put it in park to check the damage, someone else hit my car again.

That's a completely different outlook, with a whole lot more that would have not otherwise have been able to deduce just from "my parked car got hit".

Perhaps, but it was detailed enough to know what field set-up I had and what I was going to expect against my opponent. Your example is too extreme. The natural assumption is that you parked it in an established location or parking lot. Omitting such details as you slammed the breaks, caused a traffic accident, and so on would be important not to be left out. Totally different set-ups. What the person could have done was ask what else was the set-up for the Graveyard, hand of my opponent, and so on, but he did it. No he decided to call my opponent "not astute" which basically is calling my opponent an idiot. Woo, are you going to see a Infernal Incinerator coming from their Deck if your opponent is playing with a Weinie Rush Deck? (Low ATK monsters). How would he have seen my Seiyaryu combo with A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon when my Deck gave him no indication that it was focused on that. If anything, my Kaiser Glider told him and I quote "Good anti monster for Jinzo and Mobius."
 
huh? mind you i dont even have a deck, how can you say i run CC? did you like totally ignore or just broke down my post?

was the part that stated
My self in a post above his said:
yesterday I played Yugi again with my friends "CC" deck vs. My brothers Warrior Rush deck. They had been going back and forth in the win lose ratio and my friend says, "Here take a break from magic" so i started playing, the scenarios i got were so quick that it didnt take me long to know when i would win.

did you brake that ddown to read

iguess what you thought i stated said:
yesterday I played Yugi again with my "CC" deck vs. My brothers Warrior Rush deck. it didnt take me long to know when i would win.

Issues man, you got alot of them.
 
Let's just stop this pointless argument. It is clear we have a difference of opinions-so be it. Whether you respect my opinion is up to you. In addition, you are welcome to interpret anything I say however you like, because that is entirely your opinion, not mine.

Regarding the situation you described, I did not know what the entire hand, field and graveyard looked like. I could only discern from what your posts mentioned that you Prematured Seiraryu, while the opponent had a face down Dust Tornado, and Bottomless Trap Hole. In a latter post, you then mention you had a Water Dragon and a set Raigeki Break on the field and your opponent also had a set Sakurestu Armor. I don't know what else you want to add to this scenario, but given what was initially posted by you, had I been that opponent, there would not have been a chance for that Seiraryu to even hit the field.

You've had issues before with the council and it would be a shame if this thread led to something similar.

I think from now on, we should settle issues by playing a game. Let's Duel! =P
 
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