You are right. I gained valuable insight into basic game mechanics from Power of Chaos when I first got into trying to dissect the rulings. It isn't that the game can't be a tool for getting an understanding of how things work, it is more that the game isn't going to be an "Official" source of...
Mystik Wok is creating a chain in response to the summon. What happens as part of that chain link being created will not change the response timing of the chain. The response timing has been established when the chain is started, costs for cards activating in that chain or Continuous Effects...
Thank you for the explanation I have a clearer idea of the direction you are coming from now.
Yes I was referring to Really Eternal Rest, just abbreviated and forgot that that was also a card. :)
Well if UDE is ready to state publicly that equip cards actually create a new chain after they...
The combo is fine. But King Tiger Wanghu is a trigger effect, not a continuous effect. He does create a chain and will "rob priority" much like Stumbling does. So Swarm of Scarabs and the other self-flippers are out of luck.
-Edit- And Light of Intervention would prevent them from...
Then the Butterfly Dagger Elma/Eternal Rest ruling is incorrect, as there is no way for Gearfried's effect to be continuous and for there to be a window for Eternal Rest to be chained so that Elma would still be on the field to be destroyed by game mechanic.
Ian is wrong or the ruling is...
Yes in all 3 cases.
As long as the monsters were not summoned this round, have not attacked and have not changed their battle position it is perfectly legal to use their effect, summon Tsukuyomi to flip them face-down, then flip summon them and use the effect again.
Sounds like somebody at UDE doesn't read rulings as well as they should. :)
We all got surprised by the Gearfried ruling with Eternal Rest but to still have it on a Judge's Test after this long incorrectly seems bizarre.
Book of Life has already resolved when Spirit Reaper comes to the...
Well that is a good question. Does a continuous effect actually "resolve" or merely occur. We have a ruling that Level Limit - Area B's effect does not interrupt timing for Mobius. But what it does do is create a parallel event so timing becomes broader (Tragedy as well as Torrential...
You are absolutely correct Reaper is successfully summoned and at that point the timing is correct for Torrential Tribute. The only question is that immediately after that successful summon he will blow himself up and go back to the grave, this is the part in question regarding whether this...
Yet we know that both effects of Goldd are occurring in the same chain link and the second effect happens after the first thus insulating him from Torrential Tribute timing.
You could very well be correct that the timing is still correct for both. We can't seem to get any answers from...
Well since example #2 was showing that Spirit Reaper would be gone before a chain could be started I actually said that it wouldn't work. See it was just proving that Spirit Reaper would not be on the field to be the cost of Mystik Wok.
These are not two seperate effects resolving.
An equip card targets because it is an equip card. There is no seperate targeting effect to resolve beyond the card effect resolving in the first place.
Good question except that Gearfried is a Trigger effect not a Continuous effect. :)
No...
Which is analogous to John's question of whether Torrential would miss it's timing. I was actually pointing out that Spirit Reaper would destroy itself in between resolving chain links.
Actually Mystik Wok would send Spirit Reaper to the grave as cost for it's activation. You can certainly...
Spirit Reaper does not create a chain when it destroys itself. Spirit Reaper when targeted by Book of Moon waits for the effect to resolve. Once Book of Moon has resolved Spirit Reaper is face-down so he doesn't trigger his destruction.
Example #1. I activate Pot of Greed, then chain with...
Reaper will be destroyed before there is any way to create a new chain. So your timeline doesn't work. It could possibly be Spirit Reaper summoned, Reaper destroys itself, Torrential Tribute is activated and the chain could be built from there. But Reaper would definitely be off the field...
I don't think there is a question that it is an event. As the timing would be correct for Michizure so obviously it did happen and can be responded to. The only question goes to what events eclipse prior events when looking at timing? Would the timing still be correct to activate either...
The effect is considered "Continuous" by Konami, although it does happen when the trigger has been met it does not begin a chain and thus is not a "Trigger" effect. If that makes sense. :)
This is really one of the gaping hole areas for UDE/Konami. The "last event" part of game mechanics...
I would think that the continuous effect triggering and destroying Spirit Reaper would prevent the timing for Torrential Tribute, since this effect does not create a chain it simply happens, changing the last fact of the game before a response chain could be started. This is similar to why...
It can be a reflection of the type of deck you are running and the strategy. A deck that depends on combos or that run heavy tribute monsters can often win big with "the heart of the cards", but they lack reliability and can lead to dead draw hands and the inevitable losses. Cards like Reload...
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