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I should have known better than to trust the text on this message. Just compared it against the card text. The card text does not say anything about being flipped. I wasn't realizing that it was just the text of a ruling, not the text of the card. This card...

"When it is drawn, it is Special Summoned AND it inflicts 1000 damage." These seem pretty independent to me. The dependency is upon it being drawn. When it is drawn, it is special summoned. when it is drawn, it inflicts 1000 damage... Hmmm.

If we're looking at the same ruling, what you saw is when Fusilier is flipped face down after being normal summoned without a tribute. But that has a different meaning, because Fusilier's effect is reset when it is flipped face down, thus why it would have the normal ATK/DEF. What this really...

Good catch. I answered #2 to my opinion. for #1, for consistency, I would have to say that set by his effect, Fusilier could be used for the cost.

Mea Culpa, I didn't see the "or flipped face-up." in your original message or I wouldn't have said anything. Sorry. Troublemaker... :D Tribute 1 DARK monster with an ATK of 2000 points or more on your side of the field. Check all monsters on your opponent's side of the field, your...

Doh, I'm late!

Would Null and Void's effects be considered a lingering effect? I ask because its description makes it seem like it kicks in when cards are actually drawn. At that point, it has acknowledged that they have been drawn. It says so right on the card. "both players see the cards DRAWN by this...

Actually, no, it doesn't say "when summoned". If it did, then an attack that flipped him face up, or the Book of Tayou would allow his ATK/DEF to be normal. Ruling #2: If you Set "Fusilier Dragon, the Dual-Mode Beast" without Tribute, it has ATK 1400 and DEF 1000 when flipped face-up. which...

A face down card has no ATK and DEF ;) As soon as Fusilier is flipped face up by an attack, his ATK/DEF would be set by his effect, which would be 1400/1000 because you set him without a tribute.

This might help. Look at Dragon Manipulator. When flipped, you take control of one opponent's dragons for the rest of the turn (sort of like Brain Jacker limited) It doesn't say equip him to the opponent's dragon. So in this case, Dragon Manipulator may be destroyed when flipped during...

Can Brain jacker take control of a face down monster? Good question. You can take control of a face down monster with Change of Heart, and then flip him up onto the board. But there are mechanics that prevent a face down monster from being equipped. So I would say not. If you take control...

Blank Stare. Ok. Never tried Nitro. So instead of limiter removal, the card should be "Nitro boost" :) So if you inject twice as much Nitro over the same time frame, you get even more boost?

Limiter Removal behavior is one card I've never understood. A "limiter" in a machine is something that prevents the machine from doing the best it can, usually put in there to prevent a machine from overheating/wearing out/destroying itself. What I never understood was how you can remove a...

and here, I've been telling my opponent "That's ok, because after you summon on your next monster, I'm going to flip over this dark hole in spell slot #3 during my turn and then summon on this or that and destroy you." Guess I shouldn't do that. ;) *LOL* What if, starting main phase 1, the...

Whoa, I was with you until you said "chain to it". No, Tragedy couldn't be played as a part of the chain including Curse. It has to be played after the resolution of that chain and start of a new chain. But turn player has priority for starting a new chain. So what I've arrived at this...

Oh, Ok, I get it. So once a chain resolves, the turn player is given priority to respond to that chain, but cannot do a summon as a response to it and if they don't have any spell/trap, they yield priority. Is that correct?

But not everything is chainable. Say you had one monster on the field during the start of your main phase 1. Your opponent gives you priority to do something. Out of curiosity, you yield priority to them and they play curse of anubis (yeah, bad time to play it, but it'll illustrate the...

Extending this... If you, during the other player's turn, play Curse of Anubis, and then resolve that chain, and then you wanted to activate Tragedy, you would have to give the turn player priority and so the turn player could actually do something else (like a normal summon) and thus possibly...

Another way to look at it: When you do a flip effect, consider the effect to be it's own entity. That's why flip effects resolve even after the card is destroyed in battle. Man Eater bug gets flipped, imagine this ominous set of ghostly like hands appear and await the target to be dictated...

TER/Relinquish makes the monster (face up or face down) an equip card. It never flips it. That's why you can use Nobleman of Extermination on the card, because it is considered to be a face down equip card. The only reason other equip cards cannot be equipped to monsters while face down is...